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Game 30 Game Thread: Utah Jazz (15-14) @ Houston Rockets (17-14)

Utah Jazz at Houston Rockets, Feb 19, 2012 5:00 PM MST


Tonight the Utah Jazz face off on the road against the Houston Rockets in their gym, the Toyota Center. Tip off is scheduled for 5:00 MST. This is a rivalry game, even if it's not Jerry Sloan going up against Rudy Tomjanovich or Rick Adelman. Tonight it's Kevin McHale going up against Tyrone Corbin. That's would be a miss match on the floor, and appears to be a miss match on the side lines as well. Kevin has coached 125 games, winning 56 of them. Tyrone Corbin has coached 57 total games. Yeah, McHale has more experience, but that doesn't mean he's necessarily a better coach. They are both in the sub 50% winning percentage range as head coaches. Well, the games aren't decided by the coaches . . . the players have a big part to say in this.

The Game:

The Jazz are 3-9 on the road, and the Rockets are 11-4 at home. Their big minute guys are Kyle Lowry, Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Chandler Parsons, and Courtney Lee. They all play more than half the game. No one on their team dominates the glass (Dalembert averages 7.8 rpg), but they all rebound very well as a team. They are #7 in offensive rebounds, and #9 in total rebounds. They do a good job keeping the other team off the class as well (#11th best). They are a good shooting team, with great percentages across the board -- but can be prone to making turn overs. They are absolutely deadly when they get to the line, but so far this season they do not get there more than 18.6 times a game. I'm sure they'll go for 30 tonight.

The Jazz continue to be the team that I thought they were. January was fun, like we all knew it would be; however, I knew it wouldn't last. And it didn't. We are still a very interesting team to watch, and an outside shot to make the playoffs. Lately we've been up and down, which is a problem if your team's core is young. You kind of expect that. You'd wish for more game to game consistency from your veterans, and so far the only guy who has done it every game (more or less) has been Al Jefferson.

The Jazz will attack inside, and the Rockets will defend their paint. We'll see who wins this land war close to the basket, because that'll go a long way towards winning the game.


Starters:

Utah Jazz @ Houston Rockets
Al Jefferson C Samuel Dalembert
Paul Millsap PF Luis Scola
Gordon Hayward SF Chandler Parson
Raja Bell SG Kevin Martin
Devin Harris PG Kyle Lowry


Injures:

Notes:

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I do not love how many wide open threes we always let the Rockets take.

Maybe someday in my lifetime the Jazz will actually defend the three point line?

by hamfist on Feb 19, 2012 4:49 PM MST reply actions  

I am pretty amazed as how much better he has played.

But I wouldn’t call it redeemed yet. He was pretty terrible all last year. I honestly think part of the reason last year was such a mess was lack of any decent, consistent play at SG.

by hamfist on Feb 19, 2012 5:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Poll for the 3 people here

Who of the following (if any) will redeem himself by the end of the season:
CJ
Howard
Harris

by moni on Feb 19, 2012 5:28 PM MST reply actions  

Like to think Harris

but know it will be d) none of the above.

by dwillforlife on Feb 19, 2012 5:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Howard

He gets the minutes, and looked good to start the year before he got hurt. Allow who of those three will be on the team to end the season? Just a guess, but I am again going to say only Howard.

by hamfist on Feb 19, 2012 5:30 PM MST up reply actions  

CJ, I hope

because I’ve always liked him.

I'll make it coach.

by MTN on Feb 19, 2012 5:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I hope they all do

But I don’t think anything will change. If anything, they get worse.

by G Note on Feb 19, 2012 5:31 PM MST up reply actions  

harris

anything he brings now seems like a bonus :)

by dianaallen on Feb 19, 2012 5:32 PM MST up reply actions  

yuck

I'll make it coach.

by MTN on Feb 19, 2012 5:33 PM MST reply actions  

Second poll for the 3 people in here.

Does anyone actually like Josh Howard?
A. No
B. No
C. No

by mykneegrows on Feb 19, 2012 5:35 PM MST reply actions  

I'm sensitive to his plight - trying to recover some control in his life

But that’s not a reason to give him Burks’ minutes.

I'll make it coach.

by MTN on Feb 19, 2012 5:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Seems like an ok guy.

Hated when we signed him. Was impressed with the way he started the year. Wish he would pass the damn ball.

by hamfist on Feb 19, 2012 5:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't mind him

if he’s playing well (which he did earlier in the season). If he’s sucking and still getting PT, that’s a coaching decision.

by moni on Feb 19, 2012 5:36 PM MST up reply actions  

That's what I was about to say

He did pretty well at the beginning of the year, then he had that injury and hasn’t been the same since.

by KaBar6 on Feb 19, 2012 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll take D

all of the above.

Utah>*

by Bebop on Feb 19, 2012 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Kanter=Rookie Millsap

Lots of offensive rebounds simply by making an effort to get them.

I'll make it coach.

by MTN on Feb 19, 2012 5:37 PM MST reply actions  

IMO he is playing better than Favors did in his rookie season

Pretty unbelievable for a dude that hadn’t played professional ball in so long and missed training camp.

by G Note on Feb 19, 2012 5:42 PM MST up reply actions  

GIVE THE BALL UP.

ashgopiuyetjkhaerlkhjasduyhvkamn.

by hamfist on Feb 19, 2012 5:39 PM MST reply actions  

Lets see Budinger dunk!!

I’m now excited that he’s in, show us what he’s made of.

by KaBar6 on Feb 19, 2012 5:39 PM MST reply actions  

fail

I'll make it coach.

by MTN on Feb 19, 2012 5:39 PM MST reply actions  

that will make

howards highligh reel

by rbmw263 on Feb 19, 2012 5:40 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

Well, if Ty has any control of this team at all, Howard sits for the rest of the game

Burks and CJ can have his minutes. When you hog the ball on a 3 v1 break and turn it over, you don’t deserve tick.

by G Note on Feb 19, 2012 5:40 PM MST reply actions  

I have a guy on my churchball team that plays like Josh Howard mixed with Big Al mixed with Dwight Howard's Jump Shot

Needless to say, there isn’t much passing going on, and we’ve only won once, I think I’m averaging about 5 rebounds and 1 shot per game (coach only playing me for half the game, and I’m the only pass first person on the team, frustrating huh?)

Point of this is, we’ll never win in the playoffs with black holes like Josh Howard and Big Al that kill the offensive system so they can ISO. (For future reference, I’m ok with Big Al, but not for the future, just until Kanter gets a more consistent jump shot)

by jazzyman on Feb 19, 2012 5:42 PM MST reply actions  

If Big Al gets it on the block, I want him to shoot.

But not whenever he touches it.

I'll make it coach.

by MTN on Feb 19, 2012 5:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Yea, if he shot less, I'd be fine with him

THe only the scaring me is that he was surprised that the bench was surprised when he passed out. He doesn’t realize that he doesn’t pass out often?

by jazzyman on Feb 19, 2012 5:44 PM MST up reply actions  

cj w the steal!

defensive cj?

by rbmw263 on Feb 19, 2012 5:44 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

man....

all four of our bigs are SO talented. wish they could share some a la spacejam with our backcourt

by rbmw263 on Feb 19, 2012 5:47 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

even tho he missed

it is really nice to see kanter go for the drive and dunk

by rbmw263 on Feb 19, 2012 5:49 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

Whoa, I thought the backboard was going to break

I think Kanter has the strength to do a backboard shatter in the not too distant future

by G Note on Feb 19, 2012 5:49 PM MST reply actions  

New idea for a rotation if we just want bigs clogging the lane

PG – Hayward
SG – Sap
SF – Favors
PF – Big Al
C – Kanter

Just have to make sure they don’t have to beat someone back on defense, maybe use this on a last play of the game? It seems like an interesting lineup to me, imagine the mismatches on offense you could create

by jazzyman on Feb 19, 2012 5:50 PM MST reply actions  

I always wanted this lineup:

1- DWill, 2- Memo, 3-AK, 4- Sap, 5- Al.

Twitter: rxmike12

by rxmike12 on Feb 19, 2012 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Game Thread!

About time.. been too long. Let’s do this…

Twitter: rxmike12

by rxmike12 on Feb 19, 2012 5:54 PM MST reply actions  

the ref better call that a kicked ball.

Lowry might assault them otherwise.

by Kfunk on Feb 19, 2012 5:54 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions  

with how many pts we score in the paint

its amazing we dont shoot more fts

by rbmw263 on Feb 19, 2012 6:00 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

cj made a jumper!

bet he is relieved

by rbmw263 on Feb 19, 2012 6:01 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

get a bit sick of complaining about the ref's

but enough night of whistle abused. so many late calls. even more missed calls. poor millsap getting no respect when he attacks the basket. its just jazz basketball.

by G Note on Feb 19, 2012 6:02 PM MST reply actions  

This game feels exactly how I feel right now

Late afternoon Sunday….draggin

I'll make it coach.

by MTN on Feb 19, 2012 6:13 PM MST reply actions  

Also, has anyone ever read Dune?

picked it up yesterday, and I was honestly debating skipping this game to continue reading it.

Utah>*

by Bebop on Feb 19, 2012 6:27 PM MST reply actions  

points in the paint win us games

the coaching staff must REALLY over look this stat.

by KaBar6 on Feb 19, 2012 6:28 PM MST reply actions  

Yikes.

We suck.

Twitter: rxmike12

by rxmike12 on Feb 19, 2012 6:33 PM MST reply actions  

why on earth is Al back/still in?

Kanter was killing it, reward him with some more minutes. At the very least, he’ll play some defense.

What happened to Ty mixing up the bigs and not playing platoons? Al/Sap are just not a good defensive combo.

by G Note on Feb 19, 2012 6:35 PM MST reply actions  

WTF Ty?

Why haven’t you rotated the guys in yet?

by KaBar6 on Feb 19, 2012 6:35 PM MST reply actions  

seems to be an every game problem

Ty has the potential to be a great coach, his players love him and he isn’t afraid to make changes. But his rotations are constantly off. We’re over 1/3 the way through the season now, clearly we’re not contending for a top spot, yet our FUTURE – Favors and Kanter – average a combined 30 minutes.

That’s just not on. And it’s something we might look back on in a few years and really kick ourselves for.

by G Note on Feb 19, 2012 6:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I love you Raja Bell.

No, I don’t deserve your love, but I’m back.

Twitter: rxmike12

by rxmike12 on Feb 19, 2012 6:35 PM MST reply actions  

I have decided it wasn't that he had a kid when the change happened.

It was when he got in a tussle with Kobe and got T-ed up. That lit the fire back under him and he remembered why he decided to come back to Utah.

by hamfist on Feb 19, 2012 6:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Works for me.

I was in full out hater mode last season and the start of this. I’m glad he’s back doing things he’s done before.

Twitter: rxmike12

by rxmike12 on Feb 19, 2012 6:38 PM MST up reply actions  

CJ...

Ugh.

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by rxmike12 on Feb 19, 2012 6:47 PM MST reply actions  

Lowry.

Ugh.

Twitter: rxmike12

by rxmike12 on Feb 19, 2012 6:47 PM MST reply actions  

put budinger in

He can attack the rim(s) for the Rockettes

by KaBar6 on Feb 19, 2012 6:50 PM MST reply actions  

And had Burks been getting minutes earlier in the season

maybe he wouldn’t have to be learning now in games that we had a chance to win

Utah>*

by Bebop on Feb 19, 2012 6:50 PM MST reply actions  

Conspiracy theory

Ty ordered them to suck so that fans would shut up about playing them more.

by moni on Feb 19, 2012 6:55 PM MST up reply actions  

PAULIE TIME

Let’s go!!!!!

Twitter: rxmike12

by rxmike12 on Feb 19, 2012 6:54 PM MST reply actions  

al and sap

are playing really well tho

by rbmw263 on Feb 19, 2012 7:00 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

More than anything else

I wanted Sap to make the All Star game just so he could start getting calls

Utah>*

by Bebop on Feb 19, 2012 6:58 PM MST reply actions  

I'm hoping for some

SAPSANITY!

(Ok, ok…lame, I know.)

"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK

by DWest on Feb 19, 2012 6:58 PM MST reply actions  

We g0t the spurs next

We will be under .500 team t0m0rr0w

by utahjazz-philippines on Feb 19, 2012 6:58 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

i cant believe

the far side ref had to call that

by rbmw263 on Feb 19, 2012 6:58 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

Hayward looked so good in that first quarter with his passing.

I don’t understand why he has barely sniffed the floor since.

by hamfist on Feb 19, 2012 6:59 PM MST reply actions  

Because we have too many duds on our roster eating minutes

In an ideal world all of our young guys would get more minutes. Because, let’s face it, they play well nearly every time they are on the floor.

by G Note on Feb 19, 2012 7:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I still stand by my opinion that CJ shouldn't have been in the game there.

He hadn’t been playing that good, and there was no reason to keep Hayward on the bench that long. Whatever though.

by hamfist on Feb 19, 2012 7:06 PM MST reply actions  

DeMarre needs to come in

And stomp on Scola’s face when he makes a flop

by KaBar6 on Feb 19, 2012 7:11 PM MST reply actions  

we go through way too many

two points in five minute stretches

by rbmw263 on Feb 19, 2012 7:15 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

So when Evans just came in, I was looking for a white guy on Houston on the floor.

Hoping that Budinger was in, so Evans could dunk on him. That might have made this loss bearable.

by hamfist on Feb 19, 2012 7:16 PM MST reply actions  

Nice

jacking up threes in a blow out

by jjrosk on Feb 19, 2012 7:16 PM MST reply actions  

Harpring Quote of The Night

Of quite an array…

“That’s why it’s good to have the [3-pt] review system, because Raja now has nineteen straight [games with a 3-pt make]”

I’d argue he’s less tolerable when the Jazz are playing well. Just another homerific dill.

by Borgs on Feb 19, 2012 7:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Looks like he hurt his thigh

but maybe he had just had enough of getting his butt kicked there at the end

by jjrosk on Feb 19, 2012 7:23 PM MST up reply actions  

...and his team

on the defensive end, as usual. Nowhere near as much as that basketballing idiot sporting number 34, though.

by Borgs on Feb 19, 2012 7:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Harris with his career average points and assists

Watson was off tonight.

Start Watson, Eric Borks for backup PG, and Harris to the D-League

Problem solved

by KaBar6 on Feb 19, 2012 7:23 PM MST reply actions  

Man, we've got some deficiencies

Love me some Jazz but this was a frustrating game. Raja played great D on Martin. PG play was very poor today. I cringe every time Harris pulls up for a J. Earl struggled today. Need long term solution at PG. Glad to see Howard got no 2nd half minutes. Don’t understand why OG got such little burn. 2nd half no flow to offense. Agree that Burks should be playing more. Love Favors, Kantor but only offense tonight was AJ and Milslap. We’re just not good right now. Wish Ty would just ride the young guns and see where it takes us.

by Grassy on Feb 19, 2012 8:02 PM MST reply actions  


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