Utah Jazz 2011-2012 Defensive Struggles: Which guys really hurt us?

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This season is a transition year for the Utah Jazz. This core may not even be the same core for the team that later on goes to the playoffs in the next few seasons. There are a lot of things that can change. One of the things that absolutely must change is the way the Jazz play defense. Even the traditional media has caught on to the fact that the same types of guys keep hurting us. If my laptop didn't die last week, I would have scooped them by 5 full games. (And let's be honest, in the next 10 years we're only going to see "non-Journalism school bloggisists" continue to scoop the print media more and more and more) After updating my spread sheet for the last five games here are the full breakdowns of which players have hurt us this season.

The time frame is from Game 1 to Game 30. The minimum points scored against the Jazz is 13. The over-all n-value = 94. That's further broken down into n = 31 bigmen; n = 35 wings; and n = 28 point guards. Of course, those are again divided into subgroups showing All the players from that class who scored 13 or more points against the Jazz, and just the non-Allstars who did the same.The critical criterion is Points Percentage Increase. This is very simple, it's how many points a player scored on the Jazz divided by his season PPG average.

Are the Jazz getting burned by the same type of player class each time? Bigs? Point guards? Are the Jazz getting killed by Allstar wings, or bench bigmen? Click on to see the results.

The Data:

  • Full player list n = 94
  • Bigmen list n = 31
  • Wings list n = 35
  • Point Guard list n = 28
  • Total Games played = 30
  • Total points scored on the Jazz by these 94 players: 1841 points
  • Cumulative season PPG average of these 94 players: 1366.5 ppg
  • That's a Points Percentage Difference of +34.7%
  • So on average, the guys who play the Jazz and score at least 13.0 points against us are scoring at a baseline +34.7% rate than their season average.
  • That is an average of 19.6 points scored vs the Jazz; while the average of the players is actually 14.5 ppg
  • That is a net points difference of +5.1

That means that out of the guys who do score on us, they are picking their games up. Of course, that could also mean that our defense is keying in on some players, and guys are stepping up to compensate. I did not make a list of all players who scored on us, there is no doubt a number of players who usually score a solid PPG who have been scoring at a negative % diff against us -- they just didn't score 13 points in a game so far against us.

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The Big Chart, sorted by Points Percentage Difference (% diff)

Points PPG %
Player Gm Opp vs. Jazz '11-12 Increase Notes
Courtney Fortson 13 vs. LAC 13 4.3 202.3% Point
Rodigue Beaubois 17 @ DAL 22 7.3 201.4% Point
Metta World Peace 1 @ LAL 14 4.7 197.9% Wing
Steve Novak 23 @ NYK 19 7.0 171.4% Wing
Jared Jeffries 23 @ NYK 13 4.8 170.8% Big
Chris Kaman 27 @ NOR 27 10.9 147.7% Big
Lamar Odom 17 @ DAL 19 7.8 143.6% Big
Linas Kleiza 16 vs. TOR 25 10.7 133.6% Wing
Rodigue Beaubois 14 vs. DAL 17 7.3 132.9% Point
Wesley Johnson 15 vs. MIN 13 5.6 132.1% Wing
Gustavo Ayon 27 @ NOR 13 5.7 128.1% Big
Darren Collison 24 @ IND 25 11.3 121.2% Point
Derrick Williams 15 vs. MIN 15 7.2 108.3% Wing
Kyle Lowry 30 @ HOU 32 15.4 107.8% Point
Jeremy Lin 23 @ NYK 28 14.3 95.8% Point
Jason Smith 5 vs. NOR 16 8.2 95.1% Big
Serge Ibaka 28 @ OKC 16 8.3 92.8% Big
Serge Ibaka 25 vs. OKC 16 8.3 92.8% Big
Manu Ginobili 4 @ SAS 23 12.1 90.1% Wing
Tony Allen 7 vs. MEM 21 11.1 89.2% Wing
Drew Gooden 6 vs. MIL 24 12.7 89.0% Big
DeJuan Blair 4 @ SAS 17 9.0 88.9% Big
Nene Hilario 2 @ DEN 25 13.4 86.6% Big
Chris Paul 20 vs. LAC 34 18.3 85.8% Point
Jarrett Jack 5 vs. NOR 27 14.7 83.7% Point
Shawn Marion 14 vs. DAL 22 12.0 83.3% Wing
Jordan Crawford 29 vs. WAS 21 11.5 82.6% Wing
Tyreke Evans 18 vs. SAC 31 17.0 82.4% Point
Jason Thompson 18 vs. SAC 14 7.7 81.8% Big
Jimmer Fredette 18 vs. SAC 14 8.0 75.0% Point
Luis Scola 30 @ HOU 26 15.2 71.1% Big
Stephen Curry 21 @ GSW 29 17.2 68.6% Point
Isaiah Thomas 18 vs. SAC 13 7.9 64.6% Point
Jrue Holiday 3 vs. PHI 22 13.6 61.8% Point
Brandon Rush 8 @ GSW 14 8.7 60.9% Wing
Stephen Jackson 6 vs. MIL 16 10.5 52.4% Wing
Ricky Rubio 15 vs. MIN 17 11.3 50.4% Point
Monta Ellis 21 @ GSW 33 22.0 50.0% Point
Blake Griffin 20 vs. LAC 31 21.2 46.2% Big
Monta Ellis 8 @ GSW 32 22.0 45.5% Point
Pau Gasol 22 vs. LAL 24 16.6 44.6% Big
Spencer Hawes 3 vs. PHI 15 10.5 42.9% Big
John Wall 29 vs. WAS 24 16.9 42.0% Point
Mo Williams 20 vs. LAC 19 13.5 40.7% Point
Marc Gasol 7 vs. MEM 21 15.1 39.1% Big
Kobe Bryant 10 vs. LAL 40 29.0 37.9% Wing
Nene Hilario 12 @ DEN 18 13.4 34.3% Big
Shawn Marion 17 @ DAL 16 12.0 33.3% Wing
Arron Afflalo 12 @ DEN 16 12.0 33.3% Wing
Pau Gasol 1 @ LAL 22 16.6 32.5% Big
Kris Humphries 11 vs. NJN 18 13.6 32.4% Big
Antawn Jamison 9 vs. CLE 22 16.7 31.7% Wing
James Harden 28 @ OKC 22 16.8 31.0% Wing
Andre Iguodala 3 vs. PHI 16 12.4 29.0% Wing
Andrew Bynum 22 vs. LAL 21 16.3 28.8% Big
Mike Conley 26 @ MEM 17 13.2 28.8% Point
Chris Kaman 5 vs. NOR 14 10.9 28.4% Big
Al Harrington 2 @ DEN 18 14.1 27.7% Wing
Lou Williams 3 vs. PHI 20 15.9 25.8% Point
Roy Hibbert 24 @ IND 17 13.6 25.0% Big
JaVale McGee 29 vs. WAS 15 12.1 24.0% Big
Jordan Farmar 11 vs. NJN 13 10.5 23.8% Point
Marco Belinelli 27 @ NOR 13 10.5 23.8% Wing
Dorell Wright 21 @ GSW 13 10.6 22.6% Wing
Jason Terry 17 @ DAL 18 14.7 22.4% Wing
David Lee 21 @ GSW 23 19.0 21.1% Big
Russell Westbrook 25 vs. OKC 28 23.2 20.7% Point
Paul George 24 @ IND 14 11.9 17.6% Wing
Rudy Gay 26 @ MEM 22 18.9 16.4% Wing
Marc Gasol 26 @ MEM 17 15.1 12.6% Big
LaMarcus Aldridge 19 vs. POR 25 22.5 11.1% Big
Nicolas Batum 19 vs. POR 15 13.6 10.3% Wing
Leandro Barbosa 16 vs. TOR 13 11.8 10.2% Wing
DeMar DeRozan 16 vs. TOR 17 15.5 9.7% Wing
Kyrie Irving 9 vs. CLE 20 18.3 9.3% Point
Andrea Bargnani 16 vs. TOR 25 23.5 6.4% Big
Danilo Gallinari 12 @ DEN 18 17.0 5.9% Wing
Jamal Crawford 19 vs. POR 14 14.0 0.0% Wing
Ty Lawson 2 @ DEN 15 15.5 -3.2% Point
Caron Butler 13 vs. LAC 14 14.9 -6.0% Wing
Rudy Gay 7 vs. MEM 17 18.9 -10.1% Wing
Kobe Bryant 1 @ LAL 26 29.0 -10.3% Wing
Kobe Bryant 22 vs. LAL 26 29.0 -10.3% Wing
Danny Granger 24 @ IND 16 18.3 -12.6% Wing
Pau Gasol 10 vs. LAL 14 16.6 -15.7% Big
Ty Lawson 12 @ DEN 13 15.5 -16.1% Point
DeMarcus Cousins 18 vs. SAC 14 16.7 -16.2% Big
Kevin Durant 28 @ OKC 21 27.6 -23.9% Wing
Deron Williams 11 vs. NJN 16 21.7 -26.3% Point
Tony Parker 4 @ SAS 14 19.4 -27.8% Point
Russell Westbrook 28 @ OKC 16 23.2 -31.0% Point
Kevin Durant 25 vs. OKC 19 27.6 -31.2% Wing
David Lee 8 @ GSW 13 19.0 -31.6% Big
Kevin Love 15 vs. MIN 15 25.6 -41.4% Big

Clearly this is a lot of data to digest, that's why I broke it down into smaller chunks. But there are a few things we can glean from this. Even though the Jazz let some guys go absolutely bonkers on us, the Jazz did hold a number of guys to an outright negative points % diff: Ty Lawson, Caron Butler, Rudy Gay, Kobe twice, Danny Granger, Pau Gasol, and so on. There is a relationship between some guys going crazy and the biggest stars on their teams having an off night. We blew out the Los Angeles Clippers once, and a number of their dudes had poor showing, giving a lot of garbage time for Courtney Fortson to score 13 points, while he normally only scores 4.3 ppg. Another outlier is the Knicks game where Jared Jeffries and Steve Novak got more playing time because of injuries and excused absences to Carmelo Anthony and Amare Stoudemire.

Over all, it doesn't quite resolve in a bell-curve shape. It's highly skewed towards the bad (for us) end, of guys having good scoring nights against us, as seen in a big improvement in Points % diff. Here's what it looks like in terms of standard deviations:


n = 7 n = 39 n = 29 n = 12 n = 4 n = 2

Between Between Between Between Between Above

-2 and -1 STDEV -1 and 0 STDEV 0 and +1 STDEV +1 and +2 STDEV +2 and +3 STDEV +3 STDEV
1 Kevin Durant Arron Afflalo Manu Ginobili Lamar Odom Metta World Peace Courtney Fortson
2 Deron Williams Pau Gasol Tony Allen Linas Kleiza Steve Novak Rodigue Beaubois
3 Tony Parker Kris Humphries Drew Gooden Rodigue Beaubois Jared Jeffries
4 Russell Westbrook Antawn Jamison DeJuan Blair Wesley Johnson Chris Kaman
5 Kevin Durant James Harden Nene Hilario Gustavo Ayon
6 David Lee Andre Iguodala Chris Paul Darren Collison
7 Kevin Love Andrew Bynum Jarrett Jack Derrick Williams
8 Mike Conley Shawn Marion Kyle Lowry
9 Chris Kaman Jordan Crawford Jeremy Lin
10 Al Harrington Tyreke Evans Jason Smith
1 Lou Williams Jason Thompson Serge Ibaka
2 Roy Hibbert Jimmer Fredette Serge Ibaka
3 JaVale McGee Luis Scola
4 Jordan Farmar Stephen Curry
5 Marco Belinelli Isaiah Thomas
6 Dorell Wright Jrue Holiday
7 Jason Terry Brandon Rush
8 David Lee Stephen Jackson
9 Russell Westbrook Ricky Rubio
20 Paul George Monta Ellis
1 Rudy Gay Blake Griffin
2 Marc Gasol Monta Ellis
3 LaMarcus Aldridge Pau Gasol
4 Nicolas Batum Spencer Hawes
5 Leandro Barbosa John Wall
6 DeMar DeRozan Mo Williams
7 Kyrie Irving Marc Gasol
8 Andrea Bargnani Kobe Bryant
9 Danilo Gallinari Nene Hilario
30 Jamal Crawford
1 Ty Lawson
2 Caron Butler
3 Rudy Gay
4 Kobe Bryant
5 Kobe Bryant
6 Danny Granger
7 Pau Gasol
8 Ty Lawson
9 DeMarcus Cousins
40

So, over-all, it appears as that we are doing an okay job against the better guys out there (current and former All-Stars are bolded). That is not what that shows, though. The standard deviations are for the percentage difference, which we already established was +34.7%. The average isn't 0.0%. So, in some cases, being between -1 and 0 standard deviations doesn't mean you are scoring less than your normal ppg. Far from it, Manu scores 12.1 ppg this season, and against the Jazz he scored 23 points. That's a +11.0 difference. I hope understanding this is not too tricky.

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The Bigmen (n = 31)

If you isolate just the bigmen then the averages change, and so do the standard deviations. Here the sample size is 31 players, the average ppg for this group is 13.9 ppg; but they scored on average 19.0 points per player against us. That is a class difference of +5.1 points. The average points % diff was +36.8%.

Points PPG %
Player Gm Opp vs. Jazz '11-12 Increase
Jared Jeffries 23 @ NYK 13 4.8 170.8%
Chris Kaman 27 @ NOR 27 10.9 147.7%
Lamar Odom 17 @ DAL 19 7.8 143.6%
Gustavo Ayon 27 @ NOR 13 5.7 128.1%
Jason Smith 5 vs. NOR 16 8.2 95.1%
Serge Ibaka 28 @ OKC 16 8.3 92.8%
Serge Ibaka 25 vs. OKC 16 8.3 92.8%
Drew Gooden 6 vs. MIL 24 12.7 89.0%
DeJuan Blair 4 @ SAS 17 9.0 88.9%
Nene Hilario 2 @ DEN 25 13.4 86.6%
Jason Thompson 18 vs. SAC 14 7.7 81.8%
Luis Scola 30 @ HOU 26 15.2 71.1%
Blake Griffin 20 vs. LAC 31 21.2 46.2%
Pau Gasol 22 vs. LAL 24 16.6 44.6%
Spencer Hawes 3 vs. PHI 15 10.5 42.9%
Marc Gasol 7 vs. MEM 21 15.1 39.1%
Nene Hilario 12 @ DEN 18 13.4 34.3%
Pau Gasol 1 @ LAL 22 16.6 32.5%
Kris Humphries 11 vs. NJN 18 13.6 32.4%
Andrew Bynum 22 vs. LAL 21 16.3 28.8%
Chris Kaman 5 vs. NOR 14 10.9 28.4%
Roy Hibbert 24 @ IND 17 13.6 25.0%
JaVale McGee 29 vs. WAS 15 12.1 24.0%
David Lee 21 @ GSW 23 19.0 21.1%
Marc Gasol 26 @ MEM 17 15.1 12.6%
LaMarcus Aldridge 19 vs. POR 25 22.5 11.1%
Andrea Bargnani 16 vs. TOR 25 23.5 6.4%
Pau Gasol 10 vs. LAL 14 16.6 -15.7%
DeMarcus Cousins 18 vs. SAC 14 16.7 -16.2%
David Lee 8 @ GSW 13 19.0 -31.6%
Kevin Love 15 vs. MIN 15 25.6 -41.4%

And here are the standard deviations:

Between Between Between Between Between
-2 and -1 STDEV -1 and 0 STDEV 0 and +1 STDEV +1 and +2 STDEV +2 and +3 STDEV
DeMarcus Cousins Nene Hilario DeJuan Blair Gustavo Ayon Jared Jeffries
David Lee Pau Gasol Nene Hilario Jason Smith Chris Kaman
Kevin Love Kris Humphries Jason Thompson Serge Ibaka Lamar Odom
Andrew Bynum Luis Scola Serge Ibaka
Chris Kaman Blake Griffin Drew Gooden
Roy Hibbert Pau Gasol
JaVale McGee Spencer Hawes
David Lee Marc Gasol
Marc Gasol
LaMarcus Aldridge
Andrea Bargnani
Pau Gasol

Again, we see that the players with the largest points % diff jumps aren't the guys who are current or former allstars, but non-stars.When you remove the stars from the list, and re-do the maths, you get a season average of 11.2 ppg that goes up to 17.9 ppg against the Jazz. That is an actual points increase of +6.7 points, which is higher than the bigman total of +5.1 points. The points % diff is also bigger, for the full class it's only +36.8%, and here with the scrub bigs it is +59.2%. Wow. In the case of Ibaka, it could be that we're saying "okay, we'll focus our defense on Kevin and Russ, let Serge beat us," and he's been doing just that.

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Wings (n = 35)

If you isolate just the wings then the averages change, and so do the standard deviations. Here the sample size is 35 players, the average ppg for this group is 14.8 ppg; but they scored on average 18.5 points per player against us. That is a class difference of +3.7 points. The average points % diff was +25.3%. So we "did" better against wings. Actually, we did not. Wings just didn't improve as much as bigs did.

Points PPG %
Player Gm Opp vs. Jazz '11-12 Increase
Metta World Peace 1 @ LAL 14 4.7 197.9%
Steve Novak 23 @ NYK 19 7.0 171.4%
Linas Kleiza 16 vs. TOR 25 10.7 133.6%
Wesley Johnson 15 vs. MIN 13 5.6 132.1%
Derrick Williams 15 vs. MIN 15 7.2 108.3%
Manu Ginobili 4 @ SAS 23 12.1 90.1%
Tony Allen 7 vs. MEM 21 11.1 89.2%
Shawn Marion 14 vs. DAL 22 12.0 83.3%
Jordan Crawford 29 vs. WAS 21 11.5 82.6%
Brandon Rush 8 @ GSW 14 8.7 60.9%
Stephen Jackson 6 vs. MIL 16 10.5 52.4%
Kobe Bryant 10 vs. LAL 40 29.0 37.9%
Shawn Marion 17 @ DAL 16 12.0 33.3%
Arron Afflalo 12 @ DEN 16 12.0 33.3%
Antawn Jamison 9 vs. CLE 22 16.7 31.7%
James Harden 28 @ OKC 22 16.8 31.0%
Andre Iguodala 3 vs. PHI 16 12.4 29.0%
Al Harrington 2 @ DEN 18 14.1 27.7%
Marco Belinelli 27 @ NOR 13 10.5 23.8%
Dorell Wright 21 @ GSW 13 10.6 22.6%
Jason Terry 17 @ DAL 18 14.7 22.4%
Paul George 24 @ IND 14 11.9 17.6%
Rudy Gay 26 @ MEM 22 18.9 16.4%
Nicolas Batum 19 vs. POR 15 13.6 10.3%
Leandro Barbosa 16 vs. TOR 13 11.8 10.2%
DeMar DeRozan 16 vs. TOR 17 15.5 9.7%
Danilo Gallinari 12 @ DEN 18 17.0 5.9%
Jamal Crawford 19 vs. POR 14 14.0 0.0%
Caron Butler 13 vs. LAC 14 14.9 -6.0%
Rudy Gay 7 vs. MEM 17 18.9 -10.1%
Kobe Bryant 1 @ LAL 26 29.0 -10.3%
Kobe Bryant 22 vs. LAL 26 29.0 -10.3%
Danny Granger 24 @ IND 16 18.3 -12.6%
Kevin Durant 28 @ OKC 21 27.6 -23.9%
Kevin Durant 25 vs. OKC 19 27.6 -31.2%

And here are the standard deviations:

Between Between Between Between Between Above
-2 and -1 STDEV -1 and 0 STDEV 0 and +1 STDEV +1 and +2 STDEV +2 and +3 STDEV +3 STDEV
Kevin Durant Marco Belinelli Brandon Rush Linas Kleiza Steve Novak Metta World Peace
Dorell Wright Stephen Jackson Wesley Johnson
Jason Terry Kobe Bryant Derrick Williams
Paul George Shawn Marion Manu Ginobili
Rudy Gay Arron Afflalo Tony Allen
Nicolas Batum Antawn Jamison Shawn Marion
Leandro Barbosa James Harden Jordan Crawford
DeMar DeRozan Andre Iguodala
Danilo Gallinari Al Harrington
Jamal Crawford
Caron Butler
Rudy Gay
Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant
Danny Granger
Kevin Durant

METTA! WORLD! PEACE! (Remember Kevin Harlan's call?) Yeah, the Jazz kept guys like Durant and Dirk low, only to let guys like Ibaka and Marion go off. There appears to be some give and take here. What about just the non-stars? When you remove the stars from the list, and re-do the maths, you get a season average of 11.8 ppg that goes up to 16.9 ppg against the Jazz. That is an actual points increase of +5.1 points, which is higher than the full wing player total of +3.7 points. The points % diff is also bigger, for the full class it's only +25.3%, and here with the scrub wings it is +43.3%. Again, we're getting killed by the non-stars.

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Point Guards (n = 28)

We all have an innate fear of opposing points guards, mainly because of horrible dribble penetration defense. If you isolate just the points then the averages change, and so do the standard deviations. Here the sample size is 28 players, the average ppg for this group is 15.0 ppg; but they scored on average 21.6 points per player against us. That is a class difference of +6.6 points. The average points % diff was +44.3%. So we are getting smoked. Glad we continue to start Devin Harris, his defensive stats on MySynergySports are classified by the UN as a war-crime.

Player Gm Opp vs. Jazz '11-12 Increase
Courtney Fortson 13 vs. LAC 13 4.3 202.3%
Rodigue Beaubois 17 @ DAL 22 7.3 201.4%
Rodigue Beaubois 14 vs. DAL 17 7.3 132.9%
Darren Collison 24 @ IND 25 11.3 121.2%
Kyle Lowry 30 @ HOU 32 15.4 107.8%
Jeremy Lin 23 @ NYK 28 14.3 95.8%
Chris Paul 20 vs. LAC 34 18.3 85.8%
Jarrett Jack 5 vs. NOR 27 14.7 83.7%
Tyreke Evans 18 vs. SAC 31 17.0 82.4%
Jimmer Fredette 18 vs. SAC 14 8.0 75.0%
Stephen Curry 21 @ GSW 29 17.2 68.6%
Isaiah Thomas 18 vs. SAC 13 7.9 64.6%
Jrue Holiday 3 vs. PHI 22 13.6 61.8%
Ricky Rubio 15 vs. MIN 17 11.3 50.4%
Monta Ellis 21 @ GSW 33 22.0 50.0%
Monta Ellis 8 @ GSW 32 22.0 45.5%
John Wall 29 vs. WAS 24 16.9 42.0%
Mo Williams 20 vs. LAC 19 13.5 40.7%
Mike Conley 26 @ MEM 17 13.2 28.8%
Lou Williams 3 vs. PHI 20 15.9 25.8%
Jordan Farmar 11 vs. NJN 13 10.5 23.8%
Russell Westbrook 25 vs. OKC 28 23.2 20.7%
Kyrie Irving 9 vs. CLE 20 18.3 9.3%
Ty Lawson 2 @ DEN 15 15.5 -3.2%
Ty Lawson 12 @ DEN 13 15.5 -16.1%
Deron Williams 11 vs. NJN 16 21.7 -26.3%
Tony Parker 4 @ SAS 14 19.4 -27.8%
Russell Westbrook 28 @ OKC 16 23.2 -31.0%

And here are the standard deviations:

Between Between Between Between Between
-2 and -1 STDEV -1 and 0 STDEV 0 and +1 STDEV +1 and +2 STDEV +2 and +3 STDEV
Ty Lawson John Wall Jeremy Lin Rodigue Beaubois Courtney Fortson
Deron Williams Mo Williams Chris Paul Darren Collison Rodigue Beaubois
Tony Parker Mike Conley Jarrett Jack Kyle Lowry
Russell Westbrook Lou Williams Tyreke Evans
Jordan Farmar Jimmer Fredette
Russell Westbrook Stephen Curry
Kyrie Irving Isaiah Thomas
Ty Lawson Jrue Holiday
Ricky Rubio
Monta Ellis
Monta Ellis

Wow, we've somehow kept the better ones from murdering us. You know, besides the +6.6 ppg thing for point guards scoring against the Jazz thing. What about just the non-stars? When you remove the stars from the list, and re-do the maths, you get a season average of 13.6 ppg that goes up to 21.6ppg against the Jazz. That is an actual points increase of +8.0 points, which is higher than the full wing player total of +6.6 points. The points % diff is also bigger, for the full class it's only +44.3%, and here with the scrub wings it is +58.5%.

Seriously, +8.0 points . I know, "Hide yo kids, hide yo wife . . . "

The Breakdown:

All Players:

Average PPG Average PPG Points Percentage
(Season Avgs) (vs. Jazz) Diff. Difference
PF, C 13.9 19.0 +5.1 +36.8%
SG, SF 14.8 18.5 +3.7 +25.3%
PG 15.0 21.6 +6.6 +44.3%

Non-Stars:

Average PPG Average PPG Points Percentage
(Season Avgs) (vs. Jazz) Diff. Difference
PF, C 11.2 17.9 +6.7 +59.2%
SG, SF 11.8 16.9 +5.1 +43.3%
PG 13.6 21.6 +8.0 +58.5%

Does this mean that the Jazz do a good job on the stars? Not really, guys like Blake, Westbrook, and Kobe all hung 30 (or close to it) on us, and none average 30 a game. Does this mean the Jazz get killed by non-stars? Yes. particularly PGs. The initial worry was that non-star PGs hurt the Jazz. The numbers don't lie. Just like the numbers showing how bloggisists are scooping print publications. Maybe the Jazz should give us some media credentials so we can cover the team better.? Better than our team is covering opposing points at least.

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