Looking Forward and Back with KOC, J-Slo, and Burks - The Downbeat - #754

NEWARK, NJ - JUNE 23: Alec Burks from the Colorado Buffalos celebrates with his guests in the player's green room after he was selected #12 overall by the Utah Jazz in the first round during the 2011 NBA Draft at the Prudential Center on June 23, 2011 in Newark, New Jersey. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. (Photo by Mike Stobe/Getty Images)

Kevin O' Connor was on 1320 KFAN yesterday in the afternoon, and actually only gave 2 no comment type of answers in his 22 minutes of being on the radio! Among some of the more interesting revelations:

  • The Jazz don't feel like they need a first rounder, we have lots of youth already by having 5 1st or 2nd year players on the roster (he counted Jeremy Evans, so that's good news for those who want him to stay).
  • The Jazz will definitely be playing in the Orlando Summer League; Kanter, Burks, and Carroll all will play on the team. As previously discussed, Hayward and Favors can't because of their USA Select Team duties, KOC was somewhat disappointed in that.
  • He feels Paul Millsap can play the SF position in certain matchups, but is probably out of place there in others.
  • He loved, and loves, Roy Hibbert. I'm not sure I've heard KOC gush as much as he did in this interview about Roy Hibbert. He is sad that we didn't draft him, and was disappointed that Hibbert didn't drop to the Jazz in the Draft. More on this later.
  • Like everyone else, he thinks this draft is deep.
  • He watches bits and pieces and sometimes more of the NBA Playoffs, but rarely full games.
  • Rebuilding is simply a synonym for losing, and the Jazz don't believe it should ever be a organizational philosophy.
  • He thinks most of the improvement of the team will have to come from within: the young four getting better, Millsap adjusting to the 3, Harris starting the season in better form, Carroll becoming assimilated with the team were all mentioned.

For a KOC interview, it's relatively informative and revealing. Check it out.

About Roy Hibbert... KOC says that he was disappointed when Indiana traded with Toronto to get the 17th pick, because he feels that otherwise, Hibbert was likely to fall to the Jazz. What was that trade? According to DraftExpress, it was:

Toronto trades #17(Roy Hibbert) with TJ Ford and Rasho Nesterovic for Indiana's Jermaine O'Neal and Nathan Jawai.

First of all, the trade, while not announced, was reported the day before the draft. Surely, Kevin O'Connor would have known about the trade and have had time, about 24 hours, to work to make a trade for a pick above #17.

Second, I feel like the Jazz could have offered Toronto more value than this trade. The Pacers sent Jermaine O'Neal (who was a huge risk at the time, for good reason, it turns out, and was still being paid $22 million dollars a year for 2 more years), and Nathan Jawai, who is just salary filler. In return, Toronto gave up a pick and their starting point guard (who, admittedly, was also a huge risk, but at much lower dollars).

Now, it's hard to judge stupid, and this was a stupid trade by the Raptors. Perhaps the Raptors' particular form of stupid really wanted a defensive big man, no matter the cost. Hollinger defended the deal at the time, saying that it set up the team for the 2010 free agency bonanza (TJ Ford had just signed a 4 year deal). I don't know why they thought they would be a player in 2010, though. Perhaps the Raptors secretly knew that TJ Ford would suck for the next three years (even though he had a 20.6 PER pre-trade), and wanted to save themselves the reasonable contract. Who knows. The Jazz probably didn't have to offer what the Raptors wanted.

As a side note, this is what makes judging a GM's performance so difficult: you have no idea what options were available to them. It's entirely possible that the Jazz did their research and picking the highly-rated Kosta Koufos was the best move for them when considering the near future. It just doesn't look so great now, from the fan's admittedly blind perspective.

That being said, sometimes the correct course of action is to be proactive, and make a trade for the player you think is one of the best in the draft. The Jazz weren't super-flexible that year, but perhaps could have done something like C.J. Miles + #21 for #17 or a pick above that. And it would have landed the Jazz a future all-star. Roy Hibbert was a missed opportunity.

The Jazz occasionally send out an email full of articles about the team. The most recent was this one, and it featured articles by me (on Paul Millsap) and Alec (on Al Jefferson's rebounding). So that's pretty cool, for a bunch of reasons.

  1. The Jazz read SLCDunk! That means anything you read on this site is likely being read by the organization. That's pretty cool.
  2. They don't just read the good posts. Yes, mine was pretty glowing about Millsap's incredible talents. But Alec's take on Al Jefferson was fair, but a little bit harsh. They still distributed it to their massive email list.
  3. They read FanPosts too. Mine was posted in the FanPosts section, before I was official, and it was still included in this email.
What this means is that any of your writings can be read by the Jazz(!), regardless of who you are or what you write about. If you are critical, but fair, your arguments will get a second look. And that's all we can ask for as a writing community.

Now for the social media section of this Downbeat: Jazz fan Bret Baker (@thegoldenwest) made this tribute to Jerry Sloan and posted it on Twitter, it was then shared by Mr. Spencer Hall of Salt City Hoops.


They then both edited it and made it into a Facebook cover image, so that I can scare all of my friends with Jerry Sloan yelling at them.


Admittedly, this cover image was less popular than I imagined it would be. I think I often overestimate how much my real-life friends care about the Jazz. For some reason, they don't see it quite the way I do. But you're all free to use it, if you'd like.

Alec Burks tweeted this on Monday night... and I completely agree. You see, as a 20 year old, many of your friends are older than you, and have been going to 21-and-up establishments for a long while now. It's a bummer to be left out as they go places you're legally prohibited to be. I turn 21 this Friday, the 25th, and I, like Alec Burks, can't wait, if only to regain the freedom of social interaction.

Indeed, it's probably worse as an NBA player; you have lots of older friends, and if anyone ever caught you doing anything the least bit suspicious, you'd be reported immediately, especially in Utah. Heck, even this tweet caught some attention, some on Twitter worried about Mr. Burks' behavior though there was no reason to at all.

Therefore, I guess, give little Alec some slack. He's already being teased in his mentions, and he doesn't turn 21 until July 20th. He has some time to wait, and as it gets closer, it gets harder and harder to do so. He's been nothing but a good kid, is an excellent young player, and we want him in this community for many years to come. Let's do what we can to be as welcoming and supportive as possible.

Log In Sign Up

Log In Sign Up

Please choose a new SB Nation username and password

As part of the new SB Nation launch, prior users will need to choose a permanent username, along with a new password.

Your username will be used to login to SB Nation going forward.

I already have a Vox Media account!

Verify Vox Media account

Please login to your Vox Media account. This account will be linked to your previously existing Eater account.

Please choose a new SB Nation username and password

As part of the new SB Nation launch, prior MT authors will need to choose a new username and password.

Your username will be used to login to SB Nation going forward.

Forgot password?

We'll email you a reset link.

If you signed up using a 3rd party account like Facebook or Twitter, please login with it instead.

Forgot password?

Try another email?

Almost done,

By becoming a registered user, you are also agreeing to our Terms and confirming that you have read our Privacy Policy.

Join SLC Dunk

You must be a member of SLC Dunk to participate.

We have our own Community Guidelines at SLC Dunk. You should read them.

Join SLC Dunk

You must be a member of SLC Dunk to participate.

We have our own Community Guidelines at SLC Dunk. You should read them.




Choose an available username to complete sign up.

In order to provide our users with a better overall experience, we ask for more information from Facebook when using it to login so that we can learn more about our audience and provide you with the best possible experience. We do not store specific user data and the sharing of it is not required to login with Facebook.