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Development of our Youth

Hello again SLCDunkers,

This is going to be another stats-oriented post. Today I am going to be showing the minutes of our youth to see if they have gotten proper development thus far in their careers. If not, I'm going to try to determine the context or reason for their lack of development. Without further adieu!

Gordon Hayward:

Player

G

GS

MP

FGA

FG%

3P%

2P%

FT%

TRB

AST

STL

BLK

TOV

PF

PTS

ORtg

DRtg

WS/48

GH

72

17

16.9

4.1

0.485

0.473

0.489

0.711

1.9

1.1

0.4

0.3

1

1.5

5.4

106

113

0.048

GH

66

58

30.5

8.9

0.456

0.346

0.496

0.832

3.5

3.1

0.8

0.6

1.7

1.6

11.8

113

109

0.116

GH

72

27

29.2

10.7

0.435

0.415

0.444

0.827

3.1

3

0.8

0.5

1.7

1.7

14.1

113

110

0.123

GH

40

40

36.2

14.5

0.417

0.327

0.449

0.832

5.4

4.9

1.4

0.7

2.6

2.1

17.2

104

109

0.076

I believe Hayward has been treated the best in his development here on the Jazz with only his rookie season receiving questionably low minutes for our lone lottery pick rookie. Let's look at the context here and see who was playing over him. Raja Bell, CJ Miles, and Andrei Kirilenko all played more than Hayward this season.

Player

G

GS

MP

FGA

FG%

3P%

2P%

FT%

TRB

AST

STL

BLK

TOV

PF

PTS

ORtg

DRtg

WS/48

CJ

78

19

25.2

11.5

0.407

0.322

0.459

0.811

3.3

1.7

0.9

0.5

1.2

2.8

12.8

103

110

0.061

AK

64

62

31.2

8.5

0.467

0.367

0.489

0.770

5.1

3.0

1.3

1.2

1.8

1.8

11.7

112

109

0.109

RB

68

63

30.8

6.9

0.409

0.352

0.449

0.892

2.6

1.7

0.8

0.2

0.9

2.5

8

107

114

0.040


Playing Andrei Kirilenko over rookie Hayward is very reasonable, however the other two players having more minutes is fairly questionable. Raja's declining defense this season as well as subpar offense coupled with CJ's inefficient offense and horrible defense should be reason enough to wonder why Hayward didn't play a little bit more his rookie season. But since his other seasons have been managed better, I'll let it slide for now. Time to move on to the other 2010 lottery pick.

Derrick Favors:

Player

G

GS

MP

FGA

FG%

3P%

2P%

FT%

TRB

AST

STL

BLK

TOV

PF

PTS

ORtg

DRtg

WS/48

DF

78

27

19.7

5.3

0.517

N/A

0.517

0.595

5.3

0.5

0.4

0.9

1

3.2

6.8

108

108

0.091

DF

65

9

21.2

6.8

0.499

N/A

0.499

0.649

6.5

0.7

0.6

1.0

1.6

2.2

8.8

104

103

0.105

DF

77

8

23.2

7.4

0.482

N/A

0.487

0.688

7.1

1.0

0.9

1.7

1.7

3.2

9.4

104

101

0.117

DF

42

42

31.3

10.6

0.512

N/A

0.514

0.673

9.3

1.1

1

1.3

1.9

3.2

13.5

106

105

0.106


Looking at these minutes by season, it seems apparent that Favors definitely did not get enough time as a 3rd pick in his 2nd and 3rd seasons. Many of us are familiar with the big man logjam of years past. Let's see how Favors compared with Millsap and Big Al in the 3 years he played behind them. I will also compare their current seasons to see how they are doing on their own.

Player

G

GS

MP

FGA

FG%

3P%

2P%

FT%

TRB

AST

STL

BLK

TOV

PF

PTS

ORtg

DRtg

WS/48

PM

76

76

34.3

13

0.531

0.391

0.535

0.757

7.6

2.5

1.4

0.9

1.9

3.6

17.3

114

108

0.143

PM

64

62

32.8

13.5

0.495

0.226

0.505

0.792

8.8

2.3

1.8

0.8

1.8

3.5

16.6

113

102

0.179

PM

78

78

30.4

11.2

0.490

0.333

0.498

0.742

7.1

2.6

1.3

1

1.8

3

14.6

112

104

0.154

PM

43

42

33.3

13.9

0.467

0.369

0.490

0.749

8.2

3

1.7

1.2

2.4

2.8

17.8

107

101

0.145

Player

G

GS

MP

FGA

FG%

3P%

2P%

FT%

TRB

AST

STL

BLK

TOV

PF

PTS

ORtg

DRtg

WS/48

AJ

82

82

35.9

16.1

0.496

N/A

0.496

0.761

9.7

1.8

0.6

1.9

1.3

2.9

18.6

111

108

0.128

AJ

61

61

34

17.2

0.492

0.250

0.493

0.774

9.6

2.2

0.8

1.7

1

2.5

19.2

112

103

0.173

AJ

78

78

33.1

15.8

0.494

0.118

0.500

0.77

9.2

2.1

1

1.1

1.3

2.2

17.8

109

104

0.143

AJ

38

38

33.8

17.3

0.486

0.400

0.486

0.679

10.5

2.1

0.9

1.3

1.3

2.5

19.3

103

100

0.133

Despite my bias, I have to admit that Paul Millsap and Al Jefferson deserved to play more than Derrick Favors in their years together. This is also reinforced by Millsap's all star appearance this year and the case for Al being a snub. They are both good enough to carry mediocre teams while Favors still has some ways to go. The best case scenario should have been trading away Big Al a couple seasons ago once it became apparent that we were rebuilding. Favors hasn't been developed great by any means, but there are legitimate, excusable reasons for this. Off to the other big man.

Enes Kanter:

Player

G

GS

MP

FGA

FG%

3P%

2P%

FT%

TRB

AST

STL

BLK

TOV

PF

PTS

ORtg

DRtg

WS/48

EK

66

0

13.2

3.6

0.496

N/A

0.498

0.667

4.2

0.1

0.3

0.3

0.8

1.3

4.6

105

105

0.095

EK

70

2

15.4

5.4

0.544

N/A

0.542

0.795

4.3

0.4

0.4

0.5

1.4

1.7

7.2

106

107

0.101

EK

44

19

25

10

0.495

N/A

0.495

0.752

6

0.8

0.4

0.6

1.8

2.9

11.6

101

110

0.046

Enes was another victim of the big man logjam in his first 2 years. This was not an ideal situation for our big men to be put into in regards to receiving comparable minutes to other top big men from their draft classes. I would also like to note that all of the primary reason that Kanter's advanced stats are crap this season is due to playing with JL3 for the bulk of his minutes for the starting segment of the season as well as inconsistent minutes since then. Off to the Gov't Name!

Alec Burks:

Player

G

GS

MP

FGA

FG%

3P%

2P%

FT%

TRB

AST

STL

BLK

TOV

PF

PTS

ORtg

DRtg

WS/48

AB

59

0

15.9

6.1

0.429

0.333

0.442

0.727

2.2

0.9

0.5

0.1

0.9

1.4

7.2

105

109

0.076

AB

64

0

17.8

6.1

0.42

0.359

0.439

0.713

2.3

1.4

0.5

0.2

1.2

1.8

7

100

109

0.044

AB

45

8

27.6

10.5

0.44

0.342

0.458

0.761

3.2

2.8

0.8

0.2

1.7

2.3

13

105

112

0.65

Now we have the curious case of Alec Burks. Where was his playing time in his first 2 seasons. We know there was Gordon Hayward at one of the wing positions, but who the heck else was taking away time from this high potential wing? Well, in case you forgot, the wings who played more than him were Josh Howard and CJ Miles his rookie year, then Randy Foye and Marvin Williams last season. The fact that 3 of those 4 names are no longer with us indicates to me that either these players were better than Burks or those were awful choices. Let's take a look:

Player

G

GS

MP

FGA

FG%

3P%

2P%

FT%

TRB

AST

STL

BLK

TOV

PF

PTS

ORtg

DRtg

WS/48

CJ

56

14

20.4

8.3

0.381

0.307

0.416

0.794

2.1

1.2

0.8

0.3

0.9

2.2

9.1

101

108

0.063

JH

43

18

23

8.4

0.399

0.243

0.417

0.773

3.7

1.2

0.7

0.2

1.2

2.1

8.7

95

107

0.025

RF

82

72

27.4

9.0

0.397

0.410

0.378

0.819

1.5

2.0

0.8

0.3

1.1

2.3

10.8

110

111

0.08

MW

73

51

23.7

6.4

0.423

0.325

0.477

0.778

3.6

1.1

0.5

0.5

0.8

1.3

7.2

105

109

0.063

It sure looks to me that Burks had the edge over CJ already in his rookie year. I would also like to say that starting Josh Howard at all when he was here was one of the stupidest things I've seen the Jazz do (prior to RJ). Foye did give us offense on a reasonable yet inefficient clip. I would say Foye, Marvin, and Burks of last year were about even as far as impact on the game. However, why would one not play the fresh lottery pick with multiple years left on contract rather than mercs? I say Burks has been robbed of the most development on this team for no acceptable reason, yes, even more than Kanter. I realized I also forgot to add Demarre to this list, but Foye and Marvin got more time than him so I'll leave him out.

Summary:

Hayward has gotten acceptable amounts of playing time ever since his sophomore year. Favors and Kanter were victims of the logjam with Big Al and Millsap. We probably should have traded Big Al sooner and made way for our future rather than spending those 2 seasons on the playoff bubble. Burks has been absolutely shafted by his playing time situations prior to this year (and even this year now that I think about it). Please tell me who would rather play CJ Miles, Josh Howard, Randy Foye, or Marvin Williams more time than Alec Burks?

I was going to analyze the rooks as well but I think this is too small of a sample size to go off for now, but I would say Burke has played like a champ and has the minutes to go with it. Gobert has been equally shafted in playing time, but at least Beans is not playing over him.

In a future post I was considering to compare the original Core 4's developments to players on other teams they are compared to. (Paul George, Klay Thompson, Greg Monroe, Demarcus Cousins, Andre Drummond, Jonas Valunciunas, Evan Turner, Larry Sanders, Eric Bledsoe, Avery Bradley, Kawhi Leonard, Derrick Williams, and the Morris twins)

Let me know if I should compare them to anyone else, or if you have any ideas for any of my future posts.

Thanks

~JuMu

All comments are the opinion of the commenter and not necessarily that of SLC Dunk or SB Nation.

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