What do us Jazz fans have to look forward to in 4 weeks from now? Oh, you know, just a top 5 pick in arguably the strongest draft since 2003. No biggie though. Anyways, many Jazz fans including myself want the Jazz to trade up to get one of Embiid, Wiggins, Parker, or maybe even Exum. However, looking at the history of the number 5 pick from the last 30 NBA drafts made me realize that the 5th pick is a pretty good place to be if we decide to stand pat. I'm not sure if someone has done a post like this yet, I imagine Amar already has, but I couldn't find one so here are all the 5 picks from the last 30 years!
Year |
How Good |
Player |
G |
GS |
MP |
FGA |
FG% |
3P% |
FT% |
TRB |
AST |
STL |
BLK |
PTS |
ORtg |
DRtg |
WS/48 |
1984 |
Superstar |
Charles Barkley |
1073 |
1012 |
36.7 |
14.5 |
0.541 |
0.266 |
0.735 |
11.7 |
3.9 |
1.5 |
0.8 |
22.1 |
119 |
105 |
0.216 |
1985 |
Rotation |
Jon Koncak |
784 |
379 |
20.9 |
3.9 |
0.470 |
0.226 |
0.597 |
4.9 |
1.0 |
0.7 |
1.0 |
4.5 |
105 |
105 |
0.085 |
1986 |
Rotation |
Kenny Walker |
448 |
160 |
20.2 |
5.7 |
0.485 |
0.206 |
0.749 |
4.0 |
0.7 |
0.5 |
0.7 |
7.0 |
112 |
109 |
0.095 |
1987 |
Superstar |
1178 |
1053 |
34.9 |
13.3 |
0.473 |
0.326 |
0.704 |
6.4 |
5.2 |
2.0 |
0.8 |
16.1 |
108 |
102 |
0.146 |
|
1988 |
Star |
Mitch Richmond |
976 |
902 |
35.2 |
16.4 |
0.455 |
0.388 |
0.850 |
3.9 |
3.5 |
1.2 |
0.3 |
21.0 |
110 |
110 |
0.111 |
1989 |
Rotation |
J.R. Reid |
672 |
297 |
22.9 |
6.8 |
0.472 |
0.135 |
0.716 |
5.0 |
1.0 |
0.8 |
0.4 |
8.5 |
102 |
107 |
0.070 |
1990 |
Starter |
966 |
791 |
30.5 |
12.1 |
0.434 |
0.300 |
0.754 |
4.1 |
3.0 |
1.6 |
0.4 |
13.4 |
103 |
107 |
0.078 |
|
1991 |
Starter |
Steve Smith |
942 |
717 |
30.6 |
11.1 |
0.440 |
0.358 |
0.845 |
3.2 |
3.1 |
0.8 |
0.3 |
14.3 |
114 |
108 |
0.139 |
1992 |
Starter |
LaPhonso Ellis |
624 |
359 |
28.2 |
10.3 |
0.452 |
0.302 |
0.730 |
6.5 |
1.6 |
0.7 |
0.8 |
11.9 |
104 |
106 |
0.089 |
1993 |
Starter |
Isaiah Rider Jr, |
563 |
424 |
31.7 |
14.4 |
0.443 |
0.352 |
0.812 |
3.8 |
2.7 |
0.7 |
0.2 |
16.7 |
102 |
110 |
0.061 |
1994 |
Starter |
1208 |
900 |
30.3 |
11.5 |
0.469 |
0.120 |
0.764 |
6.1 |
2.2 |
0.7 |
0.3 |
13.4 |
102 |
107 |
0.078 |
|
1995 |
Superstar |
1377 |
1340 |
35.5 |
15.0 |
0.497 |
0.277 |
0.790 |
10.3 |
3.9 |
1.3 |
1.5 |
18.6 |
110 |
99 |
0.185 |
|
1996 |
Superstar |
1300 |
1149 |
35.6 |
14.6 |
0.452 |
0.400 |
0.894 |
4.1 |
3.4 |
1.1 |
0.2 |
18.9 |
114 |
108 |
0.150 |
|
1997 |
Rotation |
837 |
429 |
21.1 |
5.2 |
0.488 |
0.162 |
0.690 |
5.1 |
0.6 |
0.5 |
0.9 |
6.1 |
106 |
103 |
0.099 |
|
1998 |
Superstar |
1148 |
950 |
34.2 |
16.6 |
0.442 |
0.378 |
0.799 |
4.9 |
3.7 |
1.1 |
0.6 |
20.2 |
109 |
106 |
0.141 |
|
1999 |
Bust |
262 |
28 |
14.7 |
4.7 |
0.417 |
0.340 |
0.763 |
2.2 |
0.6 |
0.2 |
0.6 |
5.5 |
96 |
105 |
0.047 |
|
2000 |
Starter |
913 |
553 |
29.1 |
9.4 |
0.462 |
0.409 |
0.769 |
4.6 |
2.8 |
0.6 |
0.2 |
11.8 |
110 |
108 |
0.108 |
|
2001 |
Starter |
838 |
827 |
34.4 |
14.9 |
0.440 |
0.371 |
0.707 |
5.0 |
2.7 |
1.2 |
0.4 |
17.3 |
107 |
108 |
0.098 |
|
2002 |
Bust |
Nikoloz Tskitishvili |
172 |
16 |
11.3 |
3.6 |
0.304 |
0.235 |
0.730 |
1.8 |
0.7 |
0.3 |
0.3 |
2.9 |
79 |
104 |
-0.039 |
2003 |
Superstar |
719 |
710 |
36.6 |
17.7 |
0.492 |
0.289 |
0.765 |
5.0 |
6.0 |
1.8 |
1.0 |
24.3 |
111 |
103 |
0.192 |
|
2004 |
Starter |
641 |
442 |
27.3 |
9.4 |
0.438 |
0.318 |
0.797 |
2.4 |
4.8 |
1.1 |
0.2 |
12.5 |
110 |
109 |
0.115 |
|
2005 |
Starter |
667 |
612 |
34.4 |
11.9 |
0.412 |
0.332 |
0.783 |
3.3 |
6.5 |
1.4 |
0.2 |
13.1 |
103 |
109 |
0.068 |
|
2006 |
Bust |
361 |
104 |
15.5 |
3.5 |
0.462 |
0.222 |
0.740 |
4.3 |
0.5 |
0.5 |
0.5 |
4.5 |
105 |
106 |
0.085 |
|
2007 |
Starter |
478 |
362 |
32.7 |
11.9 |
0.441 |
0.344 |
0.783 |
5.1 |
1.6 |
0.8 |
0.6 |
14.2 |
103 |
108 |
0.073 |
|
2008 |
Star |
364 |
282 |
32.8 |
14.1 |
0.451 |
0.362 |
0.815 |
12.2 |
2.5 |
0.7 |
0.5 |
19.2 |
117 |
106 |
0.189 |
|
2009 |
Starter |
180 |
160 |
31.9 |
8.7 |
0.368 |
0.323 |
0.801 |
4.4 |
8.1 |
2.3 |
0.1 |
10.1 |
102 |
103 |
0.091 |
|
2010 |
Starter |
291 |
269 |
30.4 |
14.5 |
0.462 |
0.148 |
0.715 |
10.2 |
2.4 |
1.4 |
1.0 |
17.9 |
102 |
104 |
0.095 |
|
2011 |
Starter |
JonasValanciunas |
143 |
138 |
26.3 |
7.3 |
0.540 |
0.000 |
0.773 |
7.6 |
0.7 |
0.3 |
1.0 |
10.3 |
112 |
105 |
0.135 |
2012 |
Bust |
140 |
0 |
13.8 |
4.4 |
0.454 |
0.000 |
0.543 |
4.4 |
0.6 |
0.5 |
0.3 |
4.8 |
96 |
106 |
0.039 |
|
2013 |
Bust |
42 |
3 |
8.6 |
1.9 |
0.423 |
0.000 |
0.645 |
2.4 |
0.1 |
0.1 |
0.4 |
2.0 |
92 |
106 |
0.024 |
Not a bad group of guys overall. By my count, out of the last 30 drafts, there have been 6 superstars, 2 stars, 13 starters, 4 rotation players, and 5 busts. Having a 27% chance of at least a star or a 70% chance of at least a starter is fine by my standards. Obviously it would be best to get the first pick, but such is the life of the lottery, we would have had to have lost 7 more games to be drafting in the third slot this year. Yikes! There are some horrid teams out there.
Anyways, my rankings for the number 5 picks from the group above would be:
1. Dwyane Wade
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Charles Barkley
4. Scottie Pippen
5. Ray Allen
6. Vince Carter
7. Kevin Love
8. Mitch Richmond
9. DeMarcus Cousins
10. Jason Richardson
11. Isaiah Rider Jr.
12. Steve Smith
13. Kendall Gill
14. Devin Harris
15. Juwan Howard
16. Ricky Rubio
17. Mike Miller
18. Jeff Green
19. LaPhonso Ellis
20. Raymond Felton
22. J.R. Reid
23. Kenny Walker
24. Jon Koncak
25. Tony Battie
26. Thomas Robinson
27. Alex Len
28. Shelden Williams
29. Jonathan Bender
30. Nikoloz Tskitishvili
If we get a player that manages to break into the top 10 or top 8 of this list I would be extremely pleased. Here' s to hoping to a little bit of draft luck for our pick. If we stand pat, we will most likely end up with 1 of Exum, Gordon, Smart, Vonleh, or Randle, unless one of the big 3 (Wiggins, Parker, Embiid) drop unexpectedly.
Thanks for reading this edition of JuMu's Juju
Random tidbits:
- None of the superstars/stars picked at number 5 have been a point guard. Every other position is represented
- All 5 of the busts were big men (hint hint, Jazz FO, don't go with a big man!)
- Averaging all of the number 5 picks of the last 30 years leads to someone who averages 12.8 points, 5.3 rebounds, 2.7 assists in 27.6 minutes. Closest comparisons to players this season: Evan Turner, NeNe, and Spencer Hawes.
- Nikiloz Tskitishvili may very well be the worst top 5 pick of all time, sorry Nuggets....
- Charles Barkley probably hates MJ as much as Malone did for keeping him from a ring.
- Best player who I didn't know anything about prior to today: Mitch Richmond. (Probably shows my young age, need to get vetter)
- Best player combination: Offense of Charles Barkley, Defense of Kevin Garnett
- Worst player combination: Offense of Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Defense of Raymond Felton.
- Player with highest chance of jumping to superstar: Kevin Love
- Player with highest chance of jumping to star: DeMarcus Cousins (runners-up: Ricky Rubio, Jeff Green, Jonas Valanciunas)
- The polarizing battle for worst number 5 pick of the decade is heating up between Thomas Robinson and Alex Len; who will triumph?
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