clock menu more-arrow no yes mobile

Filed under:

The Downbeat: Something Is Rotten In the State Of Denmark Edition #964

Everybody wants Al Jefferson. Kevin O'Connor wants to know where you're getting your information from. TRADES! TRADES! TRADES! A Shakespeare reference?

Russ Isabella-US PRESSWIRE

The Phoenix Suns are targeting Gordon Hayward and Al Jefferson.



Yes it's as funny as it sounds. The Suns are targeting Gordon Hayward. Honestly, I'm not worried. Hayward is an untouchable. On the other hand a trade landing Marcin Gortat and Jared Dudley is tempting if it only costs Al Jefferson. If this really is a possibility for the Jazz then this gives credence to the fear of losing both Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap in the offseason. Otherwise why look for a big that would log 25+ minutes and be under contract next year? The one thing that is missing from this deal is draft picks. Those are Kevin O'Connor's bread and butter. They are a staple of San Antonio Spurs' trades too. Stay tuned.



Yesterday Chris Sheridan was on the 1280 Show talking Jazz and trade rumors. You can listen to it here. Here are some of the gems he dropped:

These two are no brainers. Jazz are looking for a PG and are trying to avoid the Boozer scenario of just ending up with a trade exception.

Thank you Austin Horton for your wonderful notes during this interview. FOLLOW HIM.

Now it gets interesting. The consensus with media types (around the league?) is the Jazz are at their crossroads. They have hit their potential with Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap as their nucleus. One could dare say they have exceeded their potential. What I was surprised to hear was Al's defensive efficiencies don't override his offensive parts of the game. What it sounds like is there are teams out there that either still believe that Al can continue to improve on his limited defensive game (Al has improved defensively. It would be a discredit to his hard work if I said he hadn't improved.) or they have a rim protector either at the power forward or center position ready to cover up his mistakes. That must be what San Antonio believes they can do with Tim Duncan and I have no idea what the Suns are doing. They are just in full on TANK! TANK! TANK! mode.

What is fascinating is Alec Burks is one of the untouchables. He is a fan favorite in trade machines when another team needs a prospect Alec Burks usually is thrown in. If Alec Burks is in the "Do Not Touch" category then who is in the "Jared Dudley-Throw In" category? That would leave Foye, Carroll, Tinsley, Murphy, Jeremy Evans, and Marvin Williams.

But do not be dismayed if you do not believe this Chris Sheridan interview for Kevin O'Connor has come to save you:

See? Everything is alright. Nothing to see here. Just move along. No comment.


Kevin O'Connor then went on to pull the rug up from under everyone who believed the Jazz are in "Win-Now" mode. Which is close to "Rebuild" mode. Instead of pressing up up down down left right left right B A B A for "Win-Now" mode, you press up up down down left right left right B A *TRADE AL JEFFERSON-Button*. It's a subtle difference if you are getting lazy on your SNES controller. Here's what Kevin O'Connor had to say:

That sound you heard coming down from space and landing on the fine, intricate webs of the internets was Kevin O'Connor's gift to you, Jazz fans. A bombshell of knowledge. A hint of where the organization is going. THE FUTURE. I have felt for some time now that the Deron Williams' trade put a specific timetable in place for the 2013-2014 season. What the Jazz do with this trade deadline, draft, and offseason will close the book on that trade. In other words, now is the time, this is the place, in Kevin "Irish Lightning" O'Connor we trust.

Which brings me to my next point, Dennis Lindsey was brought in to bring in a new vision to the organization. The Utah Jazz can spin this any way they want to but you don't bring in an outsider just to assimilate him into the Borg. You bring them in to bring fresh ideas and take you into a new direction. Especially if you bring in that person as the figure head of your organization. The Utah Jazz have entrusted Dennis Lindsey in carrying out the final steps of the Deron Williams' trade. The scouting of prospects to use on their last trade asset from that trade, the Golden State pick, the scouting of NBA players who will fit next to the pieces acquired with that trade, and the analysis of current players who may or may not fit with said players. WELCOME TO THE FUTURE!






We interrupt this Downbeat with a message from our Editor and Chief, AllThatAmar:

  • If you are upset by something someone wrote, PLEASE take 3 seconds before starting your reply. If possible, try to process any alternative interpretations of what you read (maybe the user who wrote it meant it in a different way than how you read it?) and then use your judgement. I'm not going to moderate comments -- so I'm not saying "Don't get into it." Sometimes it's inevitable. But before you get into it take some time to see if what you read is really what they wrote. Most importantly, when you reply think to yourself: "Would I say this to that person in a face to face discussion?" If your reply fails that test, fails the "humanity check", then maybe you need to re-evaluate how important it is to get into it.
  • SLC Dunk is old. We've been around for years -- and there's a growing list of phrases that are inside jokes. This is a fact. When someone says "shut up" or "loverboy" it doesn't mean what you may think it means. If you are confused -- don't by shy in asking. We're willing to catch people up : )
  • Think before you write. Not just when writing a response, but always. You are a smart fan. You are a smart person. You represent a small fanbase, but one that is known for their knowledge of the game.
  • We don't need to use four letter words. I know this is a sports website. But we're a Jazz website. I use four letter words during other times of my daily life, but I don't need to type them out here. I think most of you all can enjoy the Jazz without needing to use them here either. I want this a place I can be proud of. A safe for work place. A place where I wouldn't be ashamed of if my nephews found it, or my mother.
  • If someone does not agree with you, that does not necessarily mean they are wrong. Sometimes in life more than one point of view can have truth to it. And more than one point of view can be flawed.
  • No personal attacks. No ganging up.
  • Do not throw labels at each other -- troll, homer, shill, hater, noob, cry baby, etc. Some words elicit a stronger reaction than others. Baiting someone or flaming someone is not cool here. Neither is subjectively painting another fan a color that they may or may not be.
  • Try not to question each other's fanhood.
  • If you feel the need to engage in a long form debate -- sometimes it helps to use specific examples. Use them. It encourages debate and helps elucidate your point of view.
  • This isn't a popularity contest. If an opinion you have is shared by a number of other members of this community, that does not mean that your opinion is better than someone with a minority opinion. And if you have a minority opinion -- feel free to announce it. You may find it surprising to see how many other people agree with you and will fight with you.
  • This site isn't MY site. This site is for all of us. If you feel like no one is talking about a story, or have a new take on a story line -- then feel free to write it yourself. All of us here got our start writing fanposts. It's true. Look it up.
  • No one is too big to say "I was wrong," or "I apologize." You don't have to make it public, but if you work things out with someone you butt heads with you may actually develop a stronger bond and appreciation for each other / the other point of view / etc. The internet is a big place, big enough for all of us -- but it's way too tiny if all of us come into this with closed minds and closed hearts. We're better than that. After all, we're not Houston fans . . .
  • Endeavor to have fun here, and make this the place you want it to be.
  • .

    You can read the full version here.

    I think we can all abide by these rules. There were a lot more rules but the other tablet was lost. Who knew when someone said you should get a tablet they meant an iPad not a stone tablet?


    You must have by now noticed the title of the Downbeat. It is wildly the most misquoted line of Shakespeare. Most think Hamlet said it. Which he did not. Marcellus did after being shaken by seeing the ghost of Hamlet's father. He said it because he was hinting at something being afoul in the mood in the state of Denmark. This comes from the notion that if the head rots so does the body. Why do I bring this up? Well something is rotten in the state of Jazzland. That's us. We gotta shape up. All of us. Yes, you. Especially you. Especially me. We gotta love each other. Take care of each other. Piggy backing off of what Amar said, there are only so many of us. One of the greatest things that ever happened to me was discovering online communities and twitter. That there were so many basketball lovers and Jazz lovers out there besides my crazy dad (who mowed the Jazz logo in our front lawn every playoffs) and me. I love you guys. I love the guys at There I said it. I admit it. I love the guys at Salt City Hoops. After all, they gave me my big break at blogging. I love Hardwood Paroxysm, The Basketball Jones, and everything that bleeds online sporting communities. Maybe even Bleacher Report. Don't tell anybody. My point is, we all have crazy opinions. We're passionate about them. That's awesome. Let's not draw lines in the proverbial internet sand. For the most part we will all be wrong. Why? BECAUSE DENNIS LINDSEY IS A F***ING NINJA.