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Utah Jazz: Derrick Favors, Gordon Hayward, Enes Kanter, Alec Burks, and Trey Burke currently comprise more questions than answers for Jazz front office

Do you know how much these guys have played?

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I'm going to keep this simple because a) I'm not good enough to write it in a complex way, and b) the information here speaks for itself. This season the Utah Jazz were somewhat embracing that this was a transition year. "We're not bottoming out, and we're not a really a playoff team, we're somewhere in-between." - Randy Rigby after truth serum, probably. If that's the case there are three things to keep tabs on.

  1. Playing well
  2. Getting better
  3. and Making sure that you don't pass up on ping-pong balls.

I think that the win/loss record gives us a fair indication of how good the team is on any given night, but looking at how the team plays -- quarter to quarter -- shows so much variation. Moreover, I believe that how good we look is more a product of who we are playing, and not who we are right now. The win/loss record also help establish that we appear to be right on target for enough ping pong balls in June. Or at least, I hope. (Coin flips have been bad to us, historically.) The most difficult thing to assess is if we're getting better. This is a multifaceted problem dealing with too many things to even list. It's hard to grade a quality, but much easier to look at numbers. And the numbers say, in a clear voice: maybe.

For the majority if the sane world there are five players to really worry about on our team: Derrick Favors, Gordon Hayward, Enes Kanter, Alec Burks, and Trey Burke. There will be sufficient turnover this off-season as there are plenty of free agents. There will also (hopefully) be some new rookies. But it's these five players that we should care about most. Favors just signed a big contract for a lot of money. Hayward is a restricted free agent this summer. Kanter and Burks will be up for an extension next year -- and hopefully get one done before October's deadline arrives. And Burke is the most immediately marketable player on the team.

It really boils down to: "how well do these guys play with one another?"

That's the fulcrum for this entire off-season. And for the most part, it's been an after-thought to trying to get wins. (Which shows a lack of congruence with what the front office has to worry about, after all, it was the mirage of winning now that set back the rebuild by three seasons.)

  • The Utah Jazz have played 64 games this season
  • The Jazz have played 2 overtime periods, and as a team, played a grand total of 3,082 minutes this season
  • Trey Burke has missed 12 games to injury this season
  • Derrick Favors has missed 9 games to injury this season
  • Gordon Hayward has missed 5 games to injury this season
  • Enes Kanter has missed 1 game to injury this season
  • Alec Burks has too much swag to worry about getting injured

One idea here is that the Jazz have had so many injuries that it's impossible to get all five of those guys on the floor at the same time.

  • Of the 64 total possible games this season, these five players have been healthy and played in 37 games -- that's sadly only 57.8% of the games this year
  • Of those 37 total possible games where all five have been healthy they have played on the floor at the same time only 12 times -- that's an astoundingly poor 32.4% of the available physically fit games this year

It gets worse.

  • Of these 12 games this F5 have played (F5 = refresh, btw, on most keyboards -- unless you are a dirty Apple person) in 18 different stints
  • That's a very neat 1.5 stints a game -- which means that for MOST games these guys are on the floor only once, total.
  • It's hilarious, because one stint was 18 seconds once, and the guys were +4 in that time, and Tyrone Corbin quickly dissolved it. He didn't go back to those guys for the rest of the game.

The numbers:

  • Over these 12 games, and 18 stints, these guys have played on the floor together for 3,219 total seconds (53.65 minutes -- has a rounding error)
  • They've played 1,566 first half seconds (26.10 mins)
  • They've played 1,653 second half seconds (27.55 mins)

Is . . . is that a lot?

  • Assuming that every game is 48 minutes long (I'm throwing out the OT game info), if you play 12 games that's a total possible minutes played of 576
  • The F5 have played 53.65 minutes total. That's 9.31% of the time.
  • If you look at all of the games they could have physically played in, 37, that's 1,775 total minutes.
  • In that case, their value of 53.65 minutes drops down to 3.02% of the time.
  • I'm not going to play the "what if" game and look at how it really does compare to the 3,082 actual minutes the team has played this year. The what if game cannot invalidate actual games lost in reality to injury.

Yeah but, it's not like they're not playing!

  • This is so very true. All five of these guys project to play over 2,000 minutes total this season. I'm super happy about that. I do think that should just be a given though. So I'm not going to give the players, or the team, a gold star for doing something that's just expected.
  • Many of them do play with one another, but in some other combination of 5-man unit.
  • That's super important, I think, because you need a set group of variables to test for, against your control group.
  • But that's the problem, this season the CONTROL group should have been the F5 -- the top prospects on the team, that the front office has to plan around
  • For stretches of this season the control group has looked like "if we have enough time at the end of the lab, we can do this just for fun", instead of the one thing you had to know or discover during the time you have in the lab.

More bad news: the minutes are inconsistent. But the good news is that they are going up!

Corbin goes games and games, weeks and weeks, without playing them when they are healthy. (N=37 out of 64, remember) Only once this season they've played more than 12:00 minutes of a game together. That was against the Washington Wizards on January 25th, a win. Of course, learning doesn't happen on this team, and when we played them again they played only 9 seconds together. But at least the have played together in five of their six last possible appearances. Before this stretch Corbin had them not play with one another for 7 straight games.


The recent trend is nice, but this barren landscape still shows how infrequently this lineup was thought of as something useful. But hey, let's focus on the positives -- it's an upward trend!


See how quickly it's rising! The most recent slope is super high, right? Well, no. Even though they are playing more now, there was a larger jump earlier in the season (games against LAL and WAS in late January) than there is now (early March). It's nice that the numbers keep going up, this is the nature of this cumulative chart.

The biggest thing you do see are all the plateaus. The increases aren't consistent, which means that the playing time of this lineup is inconsistent. It's almost as if someone is TRYING to not resort to playing them together. Either that or this is a great piece of statistical 'luck'.

  • So this F5 lineup has seen action in 32.4% of the games they could have been in (this is 32.4% of the games where all five of them were healthy and played in the game for at least one second).
  • They average 4.47 minutes per game, in those 12 games they've actually been in
  • They average 2.98 minutes per stint, in those 18 stints they've actually been on the floor for
  • And overall they are +1.0 in +/-. How consistent are they? Well, in one game their total value was +5 vs. Indiana, and then later on this season was -11 @ Indiana.

So they're +1 in about 54 minutes. Is that good? According to the data (again, rounding errors) for units that have played 50 minutes together this season we have this:

G Min PG SG SF PF C +/- MPG +/- per min
1 28 121 Diante Garrett Alec Burks Gordon Hayward Jeremy Evans Enes Kanter 29 4.32 0.24
2 26 119 Trey Burke Alec Burks Gordon Hayward Marvin Williams Derrick Favors 23 4.58 0.19
3 35 510 Trey Burke Gordon Hayward Richard Jeffers Marvin Williams Derrick Favors 19 14.57 0.04
4 12 54 Trey Burke Alec Burks Gordon Hayward Enes Kanter Derrick Favors 1 4.50 0.02
5 17 50 Trey Burke Alec Burks Richard Jeffers Jeremy Evans Enes Kanter -3 2.94 -0.06
6 14 103 Trey Burke Alec Burks Richard Jeffers Marvin Williams Derrick Favors -19 7.36 -0.18
7 15 140 Trey Burke Gordon Hayward Richard Jeffers Marvin Williams Enes Kanter -29 9.33 -0.21
8 19 86 Diante Garrett Alec Burks Brandon Rush Jeremy Evans Enes Kanter -19 4.53 -0.22
9 29 81 Trey Burke Alec Burks Gordon Hayward Jeremy Evans Enes Kanter -18 2.79 -0.22
10 16 104 John Lucas III Gordon Hayward Richard Jeffers Enes Kanter Derrick Favors -24 6.50 -0.23
11 8 58 Alec Burks Gordon Hayward Richard Jeffers Enes Kanter Derrick Favors -17 7.25 -0.29
12 20 66 Diante Garrett Alec Burks Richard Jeffers Jeremy Evans Enes Kanter -29 3.30 -0.44
13 5 65 Jamaal Tinsley Gordon Hayward Richard Jeffers Enes Kanter Derrick Favors -44 13.00 -0.68
14 11 53 Trey Burke Gordon Hayward Richard Jeffers Enes Kanter Derrick Favors -44 4.82 -0.83

The TBABGHEKDF lineup is one of only FOUR that has played at least 50 minutes together that has a positive +/- value. And if you rank them by their +/- value per minute played they appear to be only slightly off of the one that the team starts with. But, well, we have 10x more the data sample size for that group. They've played 500+ minutes, this group is at 50+. And the difference is +0.02 in +/-. I think we should get more data on the control group.

And if you make a lineup with Jefferson and Williams as the control group then you really have no idea how free agency works. (Or history -- I'm sick of the revolving door free agent starters like Mo Williams, Randy Foye, Josh Howard, Raja Bell (qualifies), and so on.)

So, the Jazz front office needs to quickly make decisions on Hayward, and figure out if they should extend Kanter and Burks. They just drafted Burke and he's in his first year of his rookie deal, and Favors just signed his first big contract after his rookie deal. And, oh yeah, we have a whole OTHER draft to worry about and then free agency. It would have been nice to know what these five guys can do together -- instead of having to go into this off-season with even more uncertainty because of, well, negligence? Am I saying that the NBA needs to bring in child protective services to take these talented young lotto picks from the Jazz? No. I don't need to say that. Capitalism and how you treat them will determine if they leave on their own or not.

I'm happy they're playing minutes with vets who are going to be leaving the team. I'd be more happy if they were playing together and being used as the control group in a risk-free season of development and discovery.

But hey, nearly 54 minutes! That's good! They've played in 12 of a possible 37 games! That's good! It could be worse!

But by not much.

So in the year before an important off-season these guys are more questions than answers for the Utah Jazz front office. And it's not their fault. I think we know where we can, once again, point a finger. (It's the fans, according to some people, which is hilarious)